Ron and Jeta,

Thanks a million for two free avatar courses. You saved me and others a bundle. They make nice backups for the Source Course which doesn't have all that skeevy $cientolgy mumbo jumbo nor the mass consciousness crap.

Look forward to Wizards!

Ronald,

Please accept my apologies. I was wrong about Avatar. I know now it is a cult. This was a very painful for me. You do not imagine. I did not want to inquire or to believe this. I spoke with friends in Germany and Belgium who were very helpful.

I still need to understand. Some of it is confusing to me. It is a little depressing as well.

Thanking you always, Ananda Sonnier

Hi,

There is a somewhat harsh tone to a few of the posts here. I understand the frustration and anger at being ripped off by the Avatar cult. Please don't make fun of persons in the cult because they appear superficial or don't seem very bright or with it. That may be the result of their culting or the disorders which got them into the cult in the first place. It's tempting to knock someone who glues their world together and finds the "answer" with with quikee LGAT training 'enlightenment'. Please don't. For the grace of God there go I.

Stick to getting the cult mind control materials out in the open, exposing frauds, getting information about the cult leader's past and present. That's all you need. No need to laugh it up at the expense of people like Michael who seem goofy or dullwitted. Remember the cult caved in their ability to think. Attack the cult not the culted. Kindness will pull more from the cult.

Bobbi

Avatar is unmatched in the mind control area. $cientology does not batter your mind for 9 straight days for anywhere near as many hours as it's offspring Avatar. Nothing in $cientology's OT levels comes anywhere near the mental fragging as Avatar's 9 days. Even the other famous outer space cults and prophetic cults never work over the brain like
Red's ufo cult. Red's ufo cult gets away with it because it hides under the cover 'enlightenment' training.

Enlightened Planetary Civilization

Ron, What mental discipline has at your brain for 9 straight days of brain bombing?

Answer: A cult called Avatar. These people will have their reason whited out.
The processes themselves are innocuous save in the hands of a cult trainer and being abused so many hours. Puddling! No wonder so many avatars are gullible and devoid of common sense.

Aloha,

Red shows a supreme distrust for the Avatar students. No small wonder because it's alleged by Elmirans the Red sold upper level $cieno materials without Clearwater's permission.

You the cult student suffers because of Red's tight control and fear of you becoming like him. Another Ripoff Red.

No sane course fails to provide take home materials. You have to depend on one of Red's
minions to review the goods. What if you live hundreds of miles away? You have to yeild to their schedule. Why bother? They're FREE now and will remain free.

Only a fool takes a confidential course with no take home materials from a known cult.

Don't be.

It's time to put the Rip on Red. Let him taste his $cieno Karma. Force feed him it.
Destroy his miserable cult and its network!

Hi Ron,

Thank you this invaluable site all about the Avatar cult. I knew about the mind control tactics and the rude pressure sales. I never knew about the ufo part in the upper levels although I knew they did handle alien entities like Scientology does.

Even the worst cults don't work your head over with tech 7 to 8 hours a day for 9 days straight. No wonder the Avatars are gullible. I'm suprised anyone subjects themselves to that. They must be desperate.

Governments should be obligated to shut these kind of flake operations down.

I'd never consider the taking the Avatar Course based on the simple fact that Avatars are complete wipes. Seriously did you ever hear Avatars talk? They talk this crap about being able to pick and choose their preferred reality from Source like it's something special. Knock. Knock. It's like these people never heard of making decisions before.

What I fail to understand is how anyone can miss the very loud warning signals in their Avatar Journal and advertising. Enlightenment in 9 days? Contacting mass consciousness? Being Source? Creating what ever reality you prefer? A CONFIDENTIAL course?

Ding. Ding. Ding. It seems like such an obvious burn. Am I missing something here?

All,

After several days on the course your brain is screaming for any shred of reality. All those feel-its take their toll. You simply can not think. The day after day mental pounding grinds your thinking down. Toward the end of the course you lack any sense of what's real and what's not. It is then you will believe anything. Your mind is as wide open as it gets and you are disoriented and very very high. Right after you were hammered on the lists your mind is an unresisting sponge. It is in this shattered condition when they ask you how you felt about the course. 'Wasn't it fabulous? Please write this up.' (Dare you complain later when you come down. They have the goods.) This is where the 'success stories' are born. It is in this utterly defenseless and compromised time when talk of additional courses and going onto masters begins. There's no one standing in the guardhouse. That was emptied days ago.

Mind control or brainwashing? What do you call it?

Ron,

Everyone is pulling for you and Eldon, Gale, Manny, Sarge, Jeta, the Elmirans, and all the thousands of others who want to get this story told and a padlock on the door at Altamonte Springs. Truth will win out!

Ingrid Thomas

Thank you Ronald Cools,

I never met any Avatar that showed the slightest signs of enlightenment.

It is easily the most cultish of all LGAT and quicky enlightenment trainings. Not even early EST could shine Avatar's shoes in the cult department.

The revelations in the Master's Course are sickening.

This crap is warmed over Scientology.

Resurfacing contains many drills straight from the parent org Scientology. Counting forms is stolen from Scientology.

Ronald,

Your website reinforced my views of the Avatar Materials and Palmer. If one wants to become inauthentic, self-centered, and vacuous, Avatar is the path.

It's unbelievable anyone would be so stupid as to fall for the enlightened planetary civilization. After hours and days of feel-its and Creation handling you believe any scraps they toss you.

Kahli Jacobs

Ronald,

While some dismiss Avatar as merely Junior League Scientolgy or new age scientology I know this is a mistake. Many who are drawn into the upper levels of this org are seriously out of the contact and believe limits no longer apply to them.

Thank you Ronald for putting out an alert.

Hi Ron,

I was considering taking the course until I read through the material on your website and at fact.net I had misgivings about some of the puff information in their journal and the pushyness of the master I spoke with. Your information made the difference. It's hard to recognize a cult at first take. They can appear like any other training until you find out different.

Kay Nolen

The Avatar Master's Manual leaves no doubt about mind control. None. I saw the worms, the whacko debugging ideas, the heavy abuse of feel-its on trainees, the ultimate process hammer blows. It's no suprise about the mind control charges. It's all there in print in the Master's Course.

You must send quotes of that course to the media and to the psycho-sects watchers. That closes any argument against mind control. It virtually explains why Avatars act the way they act and subscribe to nut ideas like the Enlightened Planetary Civilization.

Jeta got a closer there!

Hi Ronnie,

Love your answer to the Star's Edge cult.

The only enlightenment anyone gets from Avatar is believing you're a god and later when you crash and feel stupid you awaken to the fact you were had. There's dozens of these scam insta 'you got it' trainings. They play the same basic headgames and prey on the spiritually and emotionally needy.

Highest praise to you, Jeta, and Eldon and the thousands of others who choose to fight back.

Hi Ron,

With some relief my contact was limited with the Avatar cult. Through the coaxing of a friend I attended a Resurfacing 'Playshop'.
It was innocuous enough even though the presenters were quite wifty and the attendees were not terribly different from the types you find at a Forum 'intro nite' or a Tony Robbins rally. Unsophisticated, some even ungrounded. We were even treated a Shaklee presentation prior to the 'playshop' which I found annoying. I left at the first break.

Ron,

A website repository such as you are constructing can do oh so much damage. I LOVE it! If everyone pulls together we can make an example of this ufo cult.

I LOVE the idea of liberating their tech. How can they sell their bloody course if everyone's
tossing it out for free?

Have some friends go to some univerity libraries in Eurpoe and repost the the Masters Course over and over in as many newsgroups as possible. Urinate on their cult course I say!

Jeta's postings of the Avatar Master Course is a coup.

They have no way at all of protecting it on the internet. None at all.

Please savage those imbeciles!

Little Doritt

To the Victims of Elmira and elsewhere,

The war on this cult and it's leader should never end until the cult is completely eradicated.

Leave the anger behind, but never the price owed or the warning that bares repeating.

If I was ripped off for many thousands and millions of dollars I would methodically extract a toll on the con artist until he paid in full. Then such an immoral person should carry a mark upon him as a warning to others for the rest of his life.

Cools092 tells the story. Let it and hundreds of others websites be erected until the cult is no longer.

Let justice triumph.