A request: Does anyone have info on when Harry Palmer invented his bogus "psychologist" title? I found an article in a 1991 where he claimed to have an MA degree in psychology (which is untrue; he has an MS in education). But at that time, he wasn't yet claiming to be a licensed health care professional. I guess he may have awarded himself the fake license sometime in the mid-1990s but I haven't been able to pin down the exact year. So if you remember the first time you heard this or saw it printed, that would be helpful.

We look forward to this cult being
banned on Greek soil.

This website gives an accurate picture of one of the dumber cults.

Ronald,

Thank you for exposing the cults mind control elements and excessive guru worship. It sickening to think they can get away with mind control in the USA. Hopefully your website will bring enough heat to end their mindgames.

Hi Tom.

Nice to see you "resurfacing" here. I will ask you and some of the other Elmira folks by e-mail, but I wanted to make this question public as well:

Do you know when Harry Palmer started referring to himself as an "educational psychologist"? I don't recall that he used the title during his lectures in 1987 when he was pitching Avatar as a breakrhrough rundown to former Scientologists, but maybe he did around the mission. I would like to narrow down the timeframe so I can include it in the book-length "Wizard of Orlando."

As it turns out, he has never had any kind of credential as a psychologist, which is a regulated, licensed health care profession just like "dentist" or "medical doctor." A couple of Avatar Masters who were recently notified of his misrepresentation said they don't care what the law is.

But the regulatory authorities do care, because it's a felony.

Best, Eldon

Hi

My son and daughter-in-law got involved in this cult for several months. They nagged me into taking the course. What a complete waste of $2300. Read the free Avatar courses emailed from here. That should disuade you from going further.

Keep up the good work exposing this cult.

We await Braun's Source Course which will further hammer the cult's ability to pimp there's.

Posting the Source Course would render the cult's copyright suit useless and give people a superior course.

A word file or pdf file would be great. It's work.
Notice what Operation Clambake was able to do to $cientology by going the extra mile.

Heinrich Spaar

Prachtige website. Echt cool !

Ronald & Jeta,

As the Avatar ufo devil cult shrinks in size, what's left is bottom feeders like Wayne and
other losers. The death threats from the Minnesota Avatar master comes as no suprise.
The growing malevolence in this ufo devil cult is surfacing. It won't belong before uniforms are issued and the cult becomes alien and strange. Hari storm trooper speech in an army uniform at Wizzards set a dangerous precedent.
The zealots have been given a hunting license.
Us versus them is the order of the day.

Thank you Ronald and Jeta,

This is a very bad cult when you see through the phoney spiritual mask.

I saw Harry Palmer in Willengen. Quite unimpressive. If you see him you realize instinctively that something is wrong.

Keep up the great work of exposing this
cult.

My sister started going to avatar a few years back, and it seemed to help the problems she was having with headaches. Now, however, the more she gooes to these "classes" in Orlando, she is not herself. She is kicking her husband out of the hous and wants a divorce. I am just learing about avatar, as she states many things to me about the "wrong" way I live and think about life and death. Any suggestions from anyone? Please

i encountered much pressure from my master to sign up for masters when i was on course. in the final days of the course you are unbelievably high and sometimes exhausted. they become quite pushy about going on to masters. they make you feel guilty if you don't. berate you. you say yes to many things you do not consider in your right mind.

Good day all,

One of the hallmarks of all cults is their juvenile regard for the self and their futile attempts to expunge it through "psuedo enlightenment". When your self is expunged by cults, they have free access to your mind. Add in a dash of cult utopia.
Avatar scores high in both these cult departments.

Expunge Avatar or avoid it entirely.

I completely support the outing and leveling of the Avatar cult.

The flashing light warnings a very bright for Avatar. The offer of a utopia. The Elmira ripoff. The ripped off tech. The whackos at Overdrive. People should know better than to go anywhere near perhaps the biggest mind control cult outside of $cientology. People miss the cues when they're desperate. They don't get it until they wake up 2300 dollars short and all the endorphins worn off. They're no longer God. The embarassment of trying to recruit your friends will fade.

Thanks AvatarScam for flashing a warning!

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The course didn't live up to any of it's promises. Live n' learn.

Randy Hass

John,

Price fixing is definitely illegal-- a violation of regulatory statutes. I'm not sure at what point it would technically become criiminal.

Of course, blackmail and extortion are criminal activities. However, if an anonymous entity like the Senior Avatar Council accused one of those crimes, it would seem pretty suspect.

They're getting pretty desperate over there on alt.clearing.avatar. Too many revelations popping up.

End the cult now. Give away their tech and expose their proven $cieno connection, their ufo upper levels, and their methods of mind control.

The course is so so. Certainly not worth a third of what they charge. The tech is ripped off from various spiritual traditions and $cientology. I can see charging maybe $300 tops. It's the luck of the draw with their masters. Many are ill equipped to teach. There's no quality control. I can't recommend it.

Those who've gone further up it's wizard bridge are flakes.

Avoid this if you can.

All I can say was the course was a big waste of 2300 dollars. I got nothing I didn't already know. The training was poor quality.

Sorry. There's several options with a cultee. Sever your ties which they've no doubt done anyway or you can seek the services of a skilled deprogrammer. The ufo cult mentally ramrodded over for 9 days of mind control. you have to aggresively respond. She MUST be deprogrammed. They ripped off her thought process. You need to take it back. A competent deprogrammer will make a "pick up" and take her to a safe house where they can "normalize" her. It's nasty, but it works. Don't sweat the legality. She's had her head burgled. Your returning stolen property to the rightful owner.